I really need it for
Conference at OpenWHO

https://www.novabbs.com/interests/article-flat.php?id=87152&group=soc.culture.polish#87152

All I get is

"Group is rebuilding... Please try again later

I am an introvert

It takes me a month to write abstract of a conference paper like this

darius wrote:

> I really need it for
> Conference at OpenWHO
>
>
> https://www.novabbs.com/interests/article-flat.php?id=87152&group=soc.culture.polish#87152
>
>
> All I get is
>
> "Group is rebuilding... Please try again later
>
> I am an introvert
>
> It takes me a month to write abstract of a conference paper like this

Sorry, I broke some stuff recently and I'm fixing it. :(

You're article should be available now.

--
Retro Guy

thank you,
you are really great

I have got it now and saved to my disk
since it takes me a month to write such free style draft

In early days of the Internet it was easy to get some response but
today, usenet is down, low traffic, low interest.

I was really surprised, ResearchGate supports live questions and answers

re. UV Index

https://www.researchgate.net/search/publication?q=UV%20index

https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_to_calculate_Ultraviolet_Protection_Factor_UPF

How to calculate Ultraviolet Protection Factor (UPF)?

MDPI is open source

Recent Advances in Coumarin Derivatives and Their Metal Complexes
Abstract submission deadline
28 December 2024
Manuscript submission deadline
28 February 2025
Viewed by
393

https://www.mdpi.com/topics/JWC7639CZU

unfortunately questions, resembling interactive chat, are not supported

Thank you, once again.

darius wrote:

> thank you,
> you are really great
>
> I have got it now and saved to my disk
> since it takes me a month to write such free style draft

Glad it's working.

Don't forget that this is Usenet. You would be able to fetch the article
from other servers, if necessary :)

--
Retro Guy

Exactly,

you are right.

I recall usenet readers from the past
but really loved Dejanews for web based interface.

Then moved to Usenet Google Groups, since Google aquired Dejanews
and promised to maintain it to the end of the world

The decision by Google to shut down Usenet Google Groups early 2024 was
a great shock for the internet community.

darius wrote:

>The decision by Google to shut down Usenet Google Groups early 2024 was
>a great shock for the internet community.

And a greater relief to the usenet community.

Good night googlegroups - you are not missed.

not sure what do you mean ?

messages sent to usenet are not indexed by Google, Bing ... search
engines
so any activity on the usenet is local activity only, not attracting any
interest from the internet world.

Usenet Google Groups worked really fine but Google has had secrete plans
to terminate service, so dismissed moderators to let spam to flood
Usenet Google Groups.

A single smart usenet admin, like Retro Guy, can keep his usenet groups
spam free
so Google should hire him to get Usenet Google Groups back into life

There is nothing hot to spend one's internet life in sandbox like
present usenet, cut off from the real internet world.

Traffic is low, interaction is low
so usenet is really cut off from the real internet world (24h live
internet world)

On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:17:50 +0000, in
<53bd8b706f2d36ce0a51ab703cf932be@www.novabbs.com>, darius wrote:

> not sure what do you mean ?
>
> messages sent to usenet are not indexed by Google, Bing ... search
> engines
> so any activity on the usenet is local activity only, not attracting any
> interest from the internet world.

Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I
assume.

> Usenet Google Groups worked really fine but Google has had secrete plans
> to terminate service, so dismissed moderators to let spam to flood
> Usenet Google Groups.

My guess is that they just didn't care. No secret plan, just neglect.
But the world is full of secret plans, so it's possible.

> A single smart usenet admin, like Retro Guy, can keep his usenet groups
> spam free
> so Google should hire him to get Usenet Google Groups back into life

I'm retired. I don't plan on going to work for someone unless absolutely
necessary.

> There is nothing hot to spend one's internet life in sandbox like
> present usenet, cut off from the real internet world.
>
> Traffic is low, interaction is low
> so usenet is really cut off from the real internet world (24h live
> internet world)

I think some would argue that Usenet is in the real internet world, and
Google is, well, Google, a for profit company that uses the internet to
make money.

Without the internet, there is no Google. Without Google, there is still
the internet. The internet pre-dates Google.

my spell checker wanted to change 'pre-dates' to 'pee-dates'. ???

--
Retro Guy

I have co-founded my first internet corporation in 1993 in Austin, TX,
well ahead of Google

https://archives.iw3c2.org/www1/PdfWWW94/speh.pdf

"Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I
assume.

Ok, but easy test fails.

Subject line from this thread

"Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ?

entered in Google, Bing, Yandex search engines

generated the following results:

Google:

It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search
Try using words that might appear on the page you’re looking for. For
example, "cake recipes" instead of "how to make a cake."
Need help? Take a look at other tips for searching on Google.

computers / rocksolid.nodes.help
novaBBS
https://www.novabbs.com › rocksolid › thread
Jun 3, 2020 — Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ? By:
darius on Fri, 5 Jul 2024. 3. 13 Hours 38 Minutes ago. By: Retro Guy. o
nocem ...

Jun 3, 2020 date is misguiding

-----------------

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22%0D%0A&sca_esv=b34798ba992e8189&sca_upv=1&source=hp&ei=MbSNZs2HCfzVwPAPrueZoAk&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZo3CQSWMguLLIm5Sr2inV8G36ZrbC2wL&ved=0ahUKEwiN5IvW-5qHAxX8KhAIHa5zBpQQ4dUDCBU&uact=5&oq=%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22%0D%0A&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IjciRGVhciBSZXRybyBHdXkgSG93IHRvIGdldCBteSBtZXNzYWdlIGZvciB0aGUgcmVjb3JkcyIKSABQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBA8gBAPgBAvgBAZgCAKACAJgDAJIHAKAHAA&sclient=gws-wiz

redirects to

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/thread.php%3Fgroup%3Drocksolid.nodes.help&ved=2ahUKEwjG9rHb-5qHAxVPPxAIHRG4AxcQFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xD5RJjOlOXsXj4fGyPY9_

redirects to

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=rocksolid.nodes.help

===========

Bing

the same query string:

"Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records"

https://www.bing.com/search?q=+%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&form=QBLH&sp=-1&ghc=2&lq=0&pq=+%22dear+retro+guy+how+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&sc=11-55&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6F5EB07CD407475584E571308ED63FFB&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=

no results

---

Yandex

the same query string:

"Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records"

https://yandex.com/search/?text=+%22Dear+Retro+Guy+How+to+get+my+message+for+the+records%22&lr=10472&search_source=yacom_desktop_common

Couldn't find an exact match. Showing results for your query without
quotes. Cancel

On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:17:41 +0000, in
<b8707c1f4d8dc33a78149babd4baf7c6@www.novabbs.com>, darius wrote:

> "Google, Bing, Yandex etc. crawl web interfaces like mine, and others I
> assume.
>
> Ok, but easy test fails.
>
>
> Subject line from this thread
>
> "Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ?
>
> entered in Google, Bing, Yandex search engines
>
> generated the following results:
>
>
> Google:
>
> It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search
> Try using words that might appear on the page you’re looking for. For
> example, "cake recipes" instead of "how to make a cake."
> Need help? Take a look at other tips for searching on Google.
>
> computers / rocksolid.nodes.help
> novaBBS
> https://www.novabbs.com › rocksolid › thread
> Jun 3, 2020 — Dear Retro Guy How to get my message for the records ? By:
> darius on Fri, 5 Jul 2024. 3. 13 Hours 38 Minutes ago. By: Retro Guy. o
> nocem ...
>
>
> Jun 3, 2020 date is misguiding

I have no idea why Google shows that date. I don't believe it's on the
site (novabbs)

It's up to search engines to crawl, nothing I can do to change what they
do/don't show. I'm not particularly bothered if these sites aren't
listed.

66.249.64.2 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:29 +0000] "GET
/interests/article-flat.php?id=184172&group=alt.usage.english HTTP/1.1"
200 26361 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P)
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile
Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/bot.html)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
66.249.70.141 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:32 +0000] "GET
/devel/post.php?id=28908&type=reply&group=comp.lang.c HTTP/1.1" 200 1713
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P)
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile
Safari/537.36 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
66.249.64.15 - - [09/Jul/2024:22:38:54 +0000] "GET
/aus+uk/thread.php?group=aus.tv HTTP/1.1" 200 8465 "-" "Mozilla/5.0
(Linux; Android 6.0.1; Nexus 5X Build/MMB29P) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML,
like Gecko) Chrome/125.0.6422.175 Mobile Safari/537.36 (compatible;
Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"

I know I see the crawlers in my logs. What they do with the info they
scoop up, I don't know.

--
Retro Guy

Frankly speaking, crawlers crawl the Internet for paid ads, to generate
traffic.

Since usenet groups don't represent any business opportunity for placing
paid ads,
data records generated by crawlers just go to trash.